diff --git a/controllers/forms/deleteboard.js b/controllers/forms/deleteboard.js
index a9128771..0287852f 100644
--- a/controllers/forms/deleteboard.js
+++ b/controllers/forms/deleteboard.js
@@ -43,7 +43,7 @@ module.exports = async (req, res, next) => {
 	}
 
 	try {
-		await deleteBoard(req.body.uri);
+		await deleteBoard(board._id, board);
 	} catch (err) {
 		return next(err);
 	}
diff --git a/db/boards.js b/db/boards.js
index 753a4222..f9bfd806 100644
--- a/db/boards.js
+++ b/db/boards.js
@@ -50,6 +50,7 @@ module.exports = {
 
 	insertOne: (data) => {
 		cache.del(`board_${data._id}`); //removing cached no_exist
+		cache.set('webring_update', 1);
 		return db.insertOne(data);
 	},
 
diff --git a/db/posts.js b/db/posts.js
index b9683a97..58fe3550 100644
--- a/db/posts.js
+++ b/db/posts.js
@@ -4,6 +4,7 @@ const Mongo = require(__dirname+'/db.js')
 	, Boards = require(__dirname+'/boards.js')
 	, Stats = require(__dirname+'/stats.js')
 	, db = Mongo.client.db('jschan').collection('posts')
+	, cache = require(__dirname+'/../redis.js')
 	, { quoteLimit } = require(__dirname+'/../configs/main.json');
 
 module.exports = {
@@ -322,6 +323,11 @@ module.exports = {
 			data.bumped = new Date()
 		}
 
+		if (!saged && !board.unlisted) {
+			//mark webring as needing update for schedule to reduce redundant webring builds
+			cache.set('webring_update', 1);
+		}
+
 		//get the postId and add it to the post
 		const postId = await Boards.getNextId(board._id, saged);
 		data.postId = postId;
@@ -343,6 +349,7 @@ module.exports = {
 				}
 			});
 		}
+
 		return postId;
 
 	},
diff --git a/models/forms/changeboardsettings.js b/models/forms/changeboardsettings.js
index e17bcb6e..1d7edd56 100644
--- a/models/forms/changeboardsettings.js
+++ b/models/forms/changeboardsettings.js
@@ -3,6 +3,7 @@
 const { Boards, Posts, Accounts } = require(__dirname+'/../../db/')
 	, uploadDirectory = require(__dirname+'/../../helpers/files/uploadDirectory.js')
 	, buildQueue = require(__dirname+'/../../queue.js')
+	, cache = require(__dirname+'/../../redis.js')
 	, { remove } = require('fs-extra')
 	, deletePosts = require(__dirname+'/deletepost.js')
 	, linkQuotes = require(__dirname+'/../../helpers/posting/quotes.js')
@@ -102,6 +103,16 @@ module.exports = async (req, res, next) => {
 		, rebuildCatalog = false
 		, rebuildOther = false;
 
+	//name, description, sfw, unlisted, tags changed need webring update
+	if ((!oldSettings.unlisted && !newSettings.unlisted) //if not unlisted or is changing unlisted status (thus will be added or removed from webring list)
+		&& (oldSettings.name != newSettings.name //and changing something that needs to be shown in webring
+		|| oldSettings.description != newSettings.description
+		|| oldSettings.unlisted != newSettings.unlisted
+		|| oldSettings.sfw != newSettings.sfw
+		|| oldSettings.tags != newSettings.tags)) {
+		cache.set('webring_update', 1);
+	}
+
 	if (newSettings.captchaMode > oldSettings.captchaMode) {
 		rebuildBoard = true;
 		if (newSettings.captchaMode == 2) {
@@ -156,13 +167,13 @@ module.exports = async (req, res, next) => {
 		});
 	}
 	if (rebuildOther) {
+		//NOTE does not rebuild individual log pages they are stuck on old theme for now
 		buildQueue.push({
 			'task': 'buildModLogList',
 			'options': {
 				'board': res.locals.board,
 			}
 		});
-		//NOTE does not rebuild individual log pages they are stuck on old theme for now
 		buildQueue.push({
 			'task': 'buildBanners',
 			'options': {
diff --git a/models/forms/deleteboard.js b/models/forms/deleteboard.js
index acd64da5..3120b790 100644
--- a/models/forms/deleteboard.js
+++ b/models/forms/deleteboard.js
@@ -1,11 +1,12 @@
 'use strict';
 
 const { Boards, Stats, Posts, Bans, Modlogs } = require(__dirname+'/../../db/')
+	, cache = require(__dirname+'/../../redis.js')
 	, deletePosts = require(__dirname+'/deletepost.js')
 	, uploadDirectory = require(__dirname+'/../../helpers/files/uploadDirectory.js')
 	, { remove } = require('fs-extra');
 
-module.exports = async (uri) => {
+module.exports = async (uri, board) => {
 
 	//delete board
 	await Boards.deleteOne(uri);
@@ -23,5 +24,8 @@ module.exports = async (uri) => {
 		remove(`${uploadDirectory}/json/${uri}/`), //json
 		remove(`${uploadDirectory}/banners/${uri}/`) //banners
 	]);
+	if (!board.unlisted) {
+		cache.set('webring_update', 1);
+	}
 
 }
diff --git a/schedules/webring.js b/schedules/webring.js
index 56672b22..f420fd8d 100644
--- a/schedules/webring.js
+++ b/schedules/webring.js
@@ -10,7 +10,7 @@ const fetch = require('node-fetch')
 	, timeDiffString = require(__dirname+'/../helpers/timediffstring.js');
 
 module.exports = async () => {
-	const label = `/webring.json`;
+	const label = `updating webring`;
 	const start = process.hrtime();
 
 	//fetch stuff from others
@@ -56,32 +56,35 @@ module.exports = async () => {
 	await Webring.db.insertMany(webringBoards);
 
 	//output our own webring json
-	const boards = await Boards.boardSort(0, 0);
-	const json = {
-		name: meta.siteName,
-		url: meta.url,
-		endpoint: `${meta.url}/webring.json`,
-		logos,
-		following,
-		blacklist,
-		known,
-		boards: boards.map(b => {
-			//map local boards to webring format
-			return {
-				uri: b._id,
-				title: b.settings.name,
-				subtitle: b.settings.description,
-				path: `${meta.url}/${b._id}/`,
-				postsPerHour: b.pph,
-				totalPosts: b.sequence_value-1,
-				uniqueUsers: b.ips,
-				nsfw: !b.settings.sfw,
-				tags: b.settings.tags,
-				lastPostTimestamp: b.lastPostTimestamp,
-			};
-		}),
+	const needsUpdate = await cache.del('webring_update'); //returns 1 if somethign was deleted, 0 if not exist
+	if (needsUpdate) {
+		const boards = await Boards.boardSort(0, 0);
+		const json = {
+			name: meta.siteName,
+			url: meta.url,
+			endpoint: `${meta.url}/webring.json`,
+			logos,
+			following,
+			blacklist,
+			known,
+			boards: boards.map(b => {
+				//map local boards to webring format
+				return {
+					uri: b._id,
+					title: b.settings.name,
+					subtitle: b.settings.description,
+					path: `${meta.url}/${b._id}/`,
+					postsPerHour: b.pph,
+					totalPosts: b.sequence_value-1,
+					uniqueUsers: b.ips,
+					nsfw: !b.settings.sfw,
+					tags: b.settings.tags,
+					lastPostTimestamp: b.lastPostTimestamp,
+				};
+			}),
+		}
+		await outputFile(`${uploadDirectory}/json/webring.json`, JSON.stringify(json));
 	}
-	await outputFile(`${uploadDirectory}/json/webring.json`, JSON.stringify(json));
 
 	const end = process.hrtime(start);
 	console.log(timeDiffString(label, end));